Monthly Archives: March 2014

Marcus Thornton’s Impact on the Nets: Floor Spacing and Pure Scoring Ability

By: Anthony Pignatti

Remember the trade deadline deal that sent Marcus Thornton from Sacramento to Brooklyn for oft injured Jason Jerry and last big off the bench Reggie Evans? Of course you do. In 3 of his 8 games with Brooklyn, Thornton has scored 20+, and has done so fashionably I might add. Most Nets fans had an opinion about the trade. Some were down about the trade, saying that we took on another bad contract for a guy shooting less than 40% on the year. Others were excited to bring in a guy who’s capable of lighting up the floor as a 6th or 7th man off the bench while keeping in mind that our 2016 flexibility would remain unaffected by the deal (the summer Kevin Durant can become a FA). While he has been rather sporadic in his production, he has proven his worth in a Nets uniform just 8 games in. I’m here to tell (and show) you how beneficial the move has been for Brooklyn.

Fan Mailbag!

Nets fans: today, brooklynsbeat.com is doing its first ever fan mailbag. Many of you had questions for me about your Nets. Here are your answers:

Name: Austin Glasser
Email: austinglasser@gmail.com
This is a question for the mailbag. What do the Nets have to do to retain Andrei Kirilenko beyond this season? I know he has a player option, but do you think he will look to chase a bigger contract elsewhere? Will we be in a cap situation where we will have the ability to offer him something better? Does the team’s apparent luke warm interest in bringing Bogdanovic over affect his situation at all with regards to the cap? If Paul Pierce doesn’t resign for the vet minimum, and KG choses to retire as a result, will we be able to use his money for Kirilenko? Is offering Blatche a contract from his early bird rights relevant at all? Salary cap rules in the NBA are very confusing.

Austin: the CBA is a beast, happy to help. Kirilenko has a player option and is back if he exercises it. I believe we have his bird rights if he opts out so we can keep him without using our mini midlevel, or taxpayer, exception. I think he will opt out.

I think Brooklyn wants Bojan, but would be required to use the taxpayer exception to bring him over. Last year they wasted chances to look at others to wait on him and they may ask for a firm “NBA or not” stance this year. Given the lack of youth I think they want him.

With Pierce, we have his bird rights so we can sign him well above the minimum. I personally believe, given the Nets plan that this core gets them to 2016, that the Nets will offer Pierce something in the 2 year $24 million neighborhood to secure his services and talk KG into staying active.

With Blatche, the Nets can pay him something like 4 years, $24 million, a figure others can beat but likely won’t try to. He does not affect the others, outside of a large tax bill.

@strausblaze: is the front office beginning to take Blatche out of their long term plans? Feeling Kidd prefers a TChandler type vs his game

That is a legitimate question. Blatche can score and is a thrill, but he struggles defensively. The Nets crave a defensive identity he struggles to fit in with. This decision could be tied to Brook Lopez: if they see Lopez as a cornerstone they may decline to build with Blatche, especially given Mirza Teletovic’s defensive limitations. Also, Blatche is better than Mason Plumlee…today. But Plumlee is younger and cheaper, and has the potential to develop into a much better player.

It will be interesting to see what the Nets think of Blatche’s worth this summer.

@honeybearrocks: When will Kidd come to his senses and start a conventional lineup preferably with AK starting at the 4?

Kirilenko is surely playing well enough to start, and should see time with te starters. However, Kidd also has had much success with the 2 point guard lineup, and Pierce at the 4. The lineup creates matchup problems, and a second ball handler gives us a nice offensive blend. I also think Kidd hopes that Kirilenko can stabilize the second unit defensively.

This is a tough one because I think starting Kirilenko could work, but we know that starting Livingston works. But you’re right that Kirilenko should see more time with the first unit: Deron, Joe, Kirilenko, and the Boston guys represents our top 5 players.

@Seanmondello: when do we move in a new direction as a unit?

The answer here is probably 2016. The Nets do not have enough future asserts to rebuild without the process being drawn out, so they are forced to try to contend now. With a treasure trove of 2016 cap space in time for Kevin Durant and other big names, at that time the Nets will be able to build a wholly new roster. For now, with little flexibility, what you see is largely what you get. The Nets could deal some of their deals expiring this or next summer for longer deals (and better players on paper) expiring in 2016, but such upgrades would be marginal and even then the Nets would not take on a deal that runs into 2017 due to they all important 2016 cap space.

In short, let’s hope Deron can be the top 10-15 player he was billed as (deservingly at the time). That is our sole path to salvation for the next 28 months.

@Shook_Jones: When was the last time Dwill and JJ had a good game on the same night?

Last I remember was the Philly game at home. Deron controlled that game from start to finish, and Joe had that enormous third quarter. That outburst was a byproduct of Deron breaking down Philly’s defense and setting Joe up for a ton of open looks.

Which goes to my larger point. Joe’s struggles are somewhat on Deron because at this age, Joe is reliant on having a playmaker like Deron to be effective consistently. Joe goes as Deron goes: when Deron does not create offense Joe is forced to Iso, which rarely ends well in the first 47 minutes of games. But when Deron is on, finding guys for good looks, Joe thrives as a corner shooter and attacker into open space off the ball.

The Nets, and Joe, will do what Deron’s ankles allow.

@sebRetalk: Are the BK Nets better than the @Raptors ?

That is a tough one. I sure hope so. Toronto has earned it’s first place spot by being 10th in the league offensively and a stout 6th defensively. They play hard for coach Casey, and relied on internal improvement from Lowry, DeRozan, Valanciunas, and Ross to get to this point. It’s a tough athletic team with 2 players that can score 20 points, good point guard play, and a good defense.

The Nets can beat the Raptors, and I will be confident if we see them in April. But unless they stumble they will win the division because we are behind a few games with little time. I think we can be better than Toronto: we are 19-8 since January and an inbounds from a 2-1 head to head, but they have earned the right to be called better at this point, if only slightly, based on the body of work. But come playoff time: I would love to see them round 1.

@Neveragain02: why did we get Collins where was he tonight… Hate this NBA business.. Get players to win not for attention.

Respectfully, I disagree here. Of course, signing Collins has brought attention.
However, that does not mean that the purpose of signing him was to induce that attention.

With Brook out and KG on a minutes limit, the need for another big to soak minutes – and to provide defense for a bench that has scored but not guarded – has been long lasting. Those are areas where Collins has excelled. And at this time of year, any available player is a guy not on a roster – so the pool for competition for his spot was not large. I wrote on this site why I believe in the signing.

I agree with you that publicity, or making a splash, is a bad reason to do a move. I just don’t think this move was about that.

@NewmutantsWill: with toughness being an issue, any chance of Ivan Johnson getting a look? I feel he adds a dimension nets sorely need.

It is possible. The Nets have one roster spot open if they keep Collins for the season. And in looking at the roster, they are set at point, and Thornton has filled a backup wing role. As you can never have enough shooting perhaps the Nets target a shooter instead, to provide insurance if we get the Thornton Sacramento got all year.

However, Johnson is a possibility. He is similar to Reggie Evans, but has some attitude issues. My instinct is Brooklyn stays away because the team is gelling and he would add another ego, but it is possible.

@wbernardez79 do you think plumlee will see time during the playoffs #Nets

Some time, yes. Plumlee’s minutes are erratic, getting more time when KG sits, but he does typically at least catch a few minutes of action. With KG and Pierce starting, Plumlee is essentially the third big off the bench behind Blatche and Teletovic, when Kirilenko plays the 3.

Plumlee deserves credit for earning minutes and I think he has a great future. He can become an excellent defender with his athleticism and work ethic if he gains muscle and develops a better understanding of NBA offenses, and the little things like how to take good angles. On offense, he’s a decent finisher who can see development there, as well as in his post game and with his jumper.

However, as fun, popular, and motivated as he is, he has work to do. At the moment, he is a net minus defender who can make the highlight play, but does not know how to guard on a possession by possession basis. I think that will change in due time – because of his potential and desire to put the time in – but he is not quite there yet. It will be interesting to see how much the Nets pay Blatche this summer if at all – it could indicate their take on Mason’s developmental curve.

At the moment, I see him getting spot minutes this postseason, particularly when Mirza is ice cold.

@jwhenson_:Playoffs basketball will require a much tighter rotation, give me your best final 9 in a Nets rotation. #beatmailbag

What a smart question. Maybe I should get this guy to write for this site! 🙂

Tough. I would go Deron, S. Dot, Joe, Paul, KG, Kirilenko, Blatche, Teletovic, Thornton – with Plumlee in relief on nights Blatche = Baltche or Teletovic is both off from 3 and getting torched defensively (he can look like an elite stretch 4 one night and unplayable the next).

That it is tough to pinpoint underscores one Nets problem this year: the team in some ways has too many specialists. Blatche is a one end big, as is Mirza. Collins is the definition of a specialist. Prior to the trade Reggie Evans was a one trick pony. The Nets, particularly up front, have too many one end guys on the roster in some ways. Nevertheless, #8 is capable of covering those issues up if he plays the way he has post all star break for the most part.

Thanks for the questions, everyone! Lets do this again sometime.

Circus Trip Recap

By: Jordan Patton

By: Jordan Patton

What a trip! Following six straight road games (with the All-Star break and a separate road game before them), the Brooklyn Nets are finally back at the Barclays Center. The road trip concluded on Saturday night in Milwaukee where the Nets took care of the Bucks 107-98, marking their fourth win of the six game trip. Aside from their disastrous performance in Portland (a 124-80 defeat), the Nets should be extremely proud of the way they performed over the 11-day trip.

The circus road trip got off to a great start in Utah, the former home of Nets PG Deron Williams, with a 105-99 win over the Jazz. Joe Johnson led the way for Brooklyn with 27 points and Deron Williams looked great for the first time in a long while with 19 points and seven assists. The victory marked Deron Williams’ first win in Utah since being traded to the Nets in 2011.

Three days later, the Nets found themselves in Oakland for a battle with the Golden State Warriors. Neither team looked particularly great as the Nets got absolutely torched by Jermaine O’Neal (yes, I said Jermaine O’Neal) and the Warriors shooters just couldn’t seem to get anything going. The game seemed to be there for the taking for the Nets until a Steph Curry bank three-point shot sealed the victory for the Warriors and marked the first loss of the Nets road trip.

The next game wasn’t the most entertaining as the Nets handled the Lakers for the most part, however, this was in no way an insignificant game. The Nets made history by signing Jason Collins, making him the first openly gay athlete to play in any of the four major North American leagues (NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL). Collins entered the game to a loud ovation at the Staples Center in a truly touching moment.

The following game for the Nets isn’t really worthy of a recap, as the team just didn’t even bother to show up for the game. Portland completely dominated the Nets from the opening tip, even without their all-star center LaMarcus Aldridge. The only bright spot in the game was the first appearance of the Nets’ new acquisition, Marcus Thornton. Thornton was originally slated to play against the Warriors but he unfortunately had a tough bout with food poisoning after some bad lobster mac-n-cheese. Yikes.

The Nets looked to bounce back from their embarrassment in Portland with a win against a depleted Nuggets team in Denver, and bounce back they did. The Nets held the Nuggets to just eight points in the first quarter en route to a 112-89 final. While I would like to credit the Nets with a dominating defensive performance, the Nuggets really just could not seem to get anything going at any point and continually missed layups, dunks, and open shots. Despite Denver’s struggles, you can’t deny the incredible effort of the Nets to bounce back so strongly after their disastrous trip to Portland.

The sixth and final game of the Nets circus road trip pitted the Nets against the dreadful Bucks in Milwaukee. As much as I would like to say that the Nets took care of business and dominated a bad team, that wasn’t the case – this game was close up until the final minutes. The Nets ultimately took care of business behind Marcus Thornton’s game-high 25 points. Thornton played incredibly well and shot the lights out from three-point-land as he produced exactly what the Nets hoped he would – points and energy off the bench.

With the post-all-star resurgence of Deron Williams and some savvy trade deadline moves, the Nets look to be poised to make some noise in the eastern conference down the stretch of the season. It will be interesting to see if Williams can keep up his raised level of play for the rest of the season; it’s not a stretch to say that the Nets’ playoff hopes rest on his shoulders (and ankles).

Nets Bucks Pregame

By: Robert Watts

The Brooklyn Nets (27-29) look to pull with one game of the .500 mark as they take on the Milwaukee Bucks (11-46) tonight in Milwaukee. The Nets look to build off of their 112-89 win in Denver versus Nuggets on Thursday by finishing their yearly circus road trip with a 4-2 record with a win tonight against the Bucks.

The Bucks are coming off of a 101-96 loss to the Indiana Pacers in Indiana on Thursday. A game in which they rallied back from a 17 point deficit early in the 2nd quarter vs the Eastern Conference’s top team to make it a close one. The Bucks are 2-3 since the All-Star break (2 losses to Indiana) and could very well catch a Brooklyn team who normally plays down to competition off guard tonight. The Nets have lost six of their last eight games in Milwaukee but have won the last two games they’ve played at the Harris Bradley Center. The Nets lead the season series between the Bucks 2-0 but haven’t swept the season series since taking all four meetings during thee 07-08 season.

Standings watch:
– With a Nets win and a Wizards loss tonight the Nets can pull within 1 full game out of the fifth seed after tonight

– With a Nets loss tonight the Nets will remain in the 6th seed, but will only have a 1/2 game lead from the 7th seed

– With a Nets win tonight they can become only 3.5 games behind Toronto for the division lead. Loss = 4.5 GB.

Game Notes:
– Kevin Garnett is OUT for the Nets tonight with back spasms. Rookie Mason Plumlee will start in his place.

– Milwaukee waived former small forward Caron Butler on Thursday.